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	<title>Comments on: Essential Differences Between Emerging and Emergent</title>
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		<title>By: Shawn Anthony</title>
		<link>http://www.lofitribe.com/2007/02/03/essential-differences-between-emerging-and-emergent/#comment-2837</link>
		<dc:creator>Shawn Anthony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Mar 2007 14:36:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is a great, great verse, my friend. Thank you! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is a great, great verse, my friend. Thank you! <img src='http://www.lofitribe.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://www.lofitribe.com/2007/02/03/essential-differences-between-emerging-and-emergent/#comment-2831</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Mar 2007 12:59:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great point, Shawn.  "Walk in wisdom toward those who are without...: Col. 4.5.
Tom</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great point, Shawn.  &#8220;Walk in wisdom toward those who are without&#8230;: Col. 4.5.<br />
Tom</p>
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		<title>By: Shawn</title>
		<link>http://www.lofitribe.com/2007/02/03/essential-differences-between-emerging-and-emergent/#comment-2825</link>
		<dc:creator>Shawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Mar 2007 11:48:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the thoughts, Tom. I think you are correct, to an extent. The danger inherent to any conversation is that one veers off ... and ends up talking to oneself, or only to those who speak the code. The Emergent conversation seems especially prone to this detriment. It can be an echo chamber, I'm sure. Too, just because everyone 'out there' won't be listening, or conversing, doesn't mean there isn't a conversation occurring. It's a balancing act, at times, no doubt. Thanks again, Tom.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the thoughts, Tom. I think you are correct, to an extent. The danger inherent to any conversation is that one veers off &#8230; and ends up talking to oneself, or only to those who speak the code. The Emergent conversation seems especially prone to this detriment. It can be an echo chamber, I&#8217;m sure. Too, just because everyone &#8216;out there&#8217; won&#8217;t be listening, or conversing, doesn&#8217;t mean there isn&#8217;t a conversation occurring. It&#8217;s a balancing act, at times, no doubt. Thanks again, Tom.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2007 13:33:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Shawn.  The "emergent" discussions, to me, have a very weak christology.  In fact, as I try to determine who the audience is in all these discussions, it becomes more evident that it is merely narcissistic banter.  That has be going on for centuries.  Consider the audience of the incarnate "enfleshment" of God in the person of Christ.  His eyes, his words and his actions were trained on those who were without.  He sought to change individuals, to die for individuals to teach individuals who were without!  He commissioned his soldiers to seek these same with love and the Gospel.  Personal knowledge of the Master, the quiet Shepherd helps us do the same.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Shawn.  The &#8220;emergent&#8221; discussions, to me, have a very weak christology.  In fact, as I try to determine who the audience is in all these discussions, it becomes more evident that it is merely narcissistic banter.  That has be going on for centuries.  Consider the audience of the incarnate &#8220;enfleshment&#8221; of God in the person of Christ.  His eyes, his words and his actions were trained on those who were without.  He sought to change individuals, to die for individuals to teach individuals who were without!  He commissioned his soldiers to seek these same with love and the Gospel.  Personal knowledge of the Master, the quiet Shepherd helps us do the same.</p>
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		<title>By: Shawn</title>
		<link>http://www.lofitribe.com/2007/02/03/essential-differences-between-emerging-and-emergent/#comment-2569</link>
		<dc:creator>Shawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Feb 2007 01:54:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I was an undergraduate theology major (1999-04), an incredible philosophy/theology professor took note of my increasingly liberal-heading theology. We had a few conversations after which he gave me a bit of advice which resonates with me to this very day (because I took him up on it). He said, "Shawn, go and spend some time in religious liberal circles." I did! I went and sat at their feet for instruction and teaching. I attended their churches. I did it all.

When the dust settled I couldn't get out of there quick enough. I think a lot of these Emergent-type folks are where I was early on in my Christian formation. They are into theological ideas that they have not actually tried out, ecclesiastically or personally. I think if they actually try to live out their philosophical and theological constructs they will come back closer to the center - which is Jesus Christ. Liberal religion is a mess. It doesn't work and it will not work.

That said, I embrace religious dialog, openness and the free-acceptance of my neighbors. I'm into new forms of church and art. I am not yesterday's evangelical. Nope. I'm Emerging, that is, if Emerging remains Incarnational, Missional, and, most importantly of all, Jesus Christ-centered, without becoming an "Emergent-liberalism". I've tried religious liberalism. It doesn't work at all.

If it's not Gospel, I won't touch it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I was an undergraduate theology major (1999-04), an incredible philosophy/theology professor took note of my increasingly liberal-heading theology. We had a few conversations after which he gave me a bit of advice which resonates with me to this very day (because I took him up on it). He said, &#8220;Shawn, go and spend some time in religious liberal circles.&#8221; I did! I went and sat at their feet for instruction and teaching. I attended their churches. I did it all.</p>
<p>When the dust settled I couldn&#8217;t get out of there quick enough. I think a lot of these Emergent-type folks are where I was early on in my Christian formation. They are into theological ideas that they have not actually tried out, ecclesiastically or personally. I think if they actually try to live out their philosophical and theological constructs they will come back closer to the center - which is Jesus Christ. Liberal religion is a mess. It doesn&#8217;t work and it will not work.</p>
<p>That said, I embrace religious dialog, openness and the free-acceptance of my neighbors. I&#8217;m into new forms of church and art. I am not yesterday&#8217;s evangelical. Nope. I&#8217;m Emerging, that is, if Emerging remains Incarnational, Missional, and, most importantly of all, Jesus Christ-centered, without becoming an &#8220;Emergent-liberalism&#8221;. I&#8217;ve tried religious liberalism. It doesn&#8217;t work at all.</p>
<p>If it&#8217;s not Gospel, I won&#8217;t touch it.</p>
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		<title>By: Diane R.</title>
		<link>http://www.lofitribe.com/2007/02/03/essential-differences-between-emerging-and-emergent/#comment-2568</link>
		<dc:creator>Diane R.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Feb 2007 01:05:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shawn,

I think you've done a great service here.  Having grown up in a liberal Protestant church and never hearing the gospel until someone told me when I was in college, I too am wary of the theological directions the emergent movement is moving.   By the way, I just finished a book by professor of theology at Fuller Seminary Ray Anderson entitled, "Emergent Theology for Emerging Churches."  In it he espouses a more Pauline theology than the Jesus as Rabbi one that so many emergents are pushing right now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shawn,</p>
<p>I think you&#8217;ve done a great service here.  Having grown up in a liberal Protestant church and never hearing the gospel until someone told me when I was in college, I too am wary of the theological directions the emergent movement is moving.   By the way, I just finished a book by professor of theology at Fuller Seminary Ray Anderson entitled, &#8220;Emergent Theology for Emerging Churches.&#8221;  In it he espouses a more Pauline theology than the Jesus as Rabbi one that so many emergents are pushing right now.</p>
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		<title>By: Shawn Anthony</title>
		<link>http://www.lofitribe.com/2007/02/03/essential-differences-between-emerging-and-emergent/#comment-2560</link>
		<dc:creator>Shawn Anthony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Feb 2007 04:55:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Jerry. Truth and reality has a natural way of making things ... great. Most of the time, we just need grab hold of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Jerry. Truth and reality has a natural way of making things &#8230; great. Most of the time, we just need grab hold of it.</p>
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		<title>By: Jerry</title>
		<link>http://www.lofitribe.com/2007/02/03/essential-differences-between-emerging-and-emergent/#comment-2556</link>
		<dc:creator>Jerry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Feb 2007 03:05:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>another great post</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>another great post</p>
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